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Re: Werbad's Puzzles
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2008, 12:46:59 AM »

I simplified my solution a bit -- it looks more like a train station now -- and it works fine for Train v3 (pesurud): zusihig. And somehow, I saved exactly 1 tick, so now it solves in 1690 ticks.

Great puzzle. That was a lot of fun to work on.
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2008, 03:21:32 AM »

Surfing resugyd liladyn (fixed start of a dozer)

Somebody make up a name for gudefud

What was wrong with the start of the dozer... hmmm, was it a little, umm, shall we say, DIFFICULT?!? That was insane.

Nevertheless, I managed to keep the dozer in check long enough to catch the wave...

For Surfing (resugyd): dekebef.


I would name gudefud, "Tiki Room". But it doesn't look possible to me yet.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2008, 05:45:59 AM »

I looked at Doubles but it seemed like a lot of work and I couldn't come up with a good strategy.

For Streams 2 v2 (sixuruk): bagesam
For Surfing v1 (resugyd): mavahih kegocyh.  The placement of the dozer didn't cause me any trouble but it does take a while to sync up.
For Tiki Room (gudefud): turubad.  Might be impossible at 1/2 rate; I had to settle for 1/4.
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Re: Werbad's Puzzles
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2008, 07:08:13 AM »

Nice work on surfing jf, didn't think of using imagea winch instead of locks

My solution: podyriv

I don't currently have any uploaded solutions for the other levels since I work in a home-made OpenGL port of rubicon...
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2008, 08:47:25 AM »

That was quite an interesting puzzle. I see jnz has posted kegocyh which makes it look so easy, but I found it quite challenging.

For Tiki Room, I did manage to run at a 1/2 sampling rate, which I suspect will send jnz back to the drawing board.  Smiley  imageWhen I first looked at the puzzle, it seemed impossible. Once I ran a test stream and watched it in action, it was obvious where the information comes from. The hard part is reading the sample.

For Tiki Room (gudefud): hisodyk
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Re: Werbad's Puzzles
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2008, 10:38:16 AM »

New puzzle:
Dictionary rydedyf

Should be easy for most people unless I missed something...
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2008, 11:35:20 AM »

For Tiki Room: pabavat
This is the fastest machine I can build for the problem. It runs at 1/2 sampling rate and solves every input in 44 ticks.
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2008, 08:14:28 PM »

For Doubles (lagyleh): risalec

For Dictionary (rydedyf): puvidec
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Re: Werbad's Puzzles
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2008, 09:08:42 PM »

Nice solution for doubles, but it has one flaw. It will not solve if imageThere are 16 unique crates and the doubled crate is at the top of the stack

My solution uses a completely different approach: filogez
imageInstead of searching for doubled crates I simply check if there are 2 or more F's. If not, I add 1 to all crates in the stream and check again.

New Puzzle:
Twin Works facypom
I have only solved the left side so far, but im sure the right is also possible.
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2008, 02:46:59 AM »

For Twin Works (facypom): zukineb.  Runs just slightly slower than 1/2 rate. Wink
Still working on that 44 tick record for Tiki Room.  Once I heard that 1/2 rate was possible, I realized what I had missed (imagethe old ramp trick for reading a door key) but I've only got it down to 46 ticks so far.
Update: For Tiki Room (gudefud): bodavec runs in 44.   Now that I look at Timbo's solution, I see some similarities like imagethe gate under the adder at the bottom and the other adder on top of the pipe to retrieve the value
Update 2: pokyzyk runs in 43.  I stole a good idea from Timbo imageof running the dozer right through the stream of crates
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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2008, 07:03:09 PM »

Nice solution for doubles, but it has one flaw. It will not solve if imageThere are 16 unique crates and the doubled crate is at the top of the stack
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This fixes the flaw: zibenon for Doubles. imageIt handles the 17th crate separately.
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2008, 01:49:38 PM »

I lied. I am able to build a machine for Tiki Room which needs less than 44 ticks.
This machine only needs 41 ticks: cugegyx

And my solution for Doubles: pudipet
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2008, 03:21:53 AM »

For Tiki Room (gudefud): tyxumuh.  41 ticks.  Trying for 40 but so far I have been unsuccessful.
Timbo's cugegyx is broken (but easily fixable, I think) for F
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Re: Werbad's Puzzles
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2008, 10:32:28 AM »

New puzzle:
Recycle cufanid

Didn't think Tiki Room would become that popular -_-'... Nice work getting a 41 tick solution, 38 ticks is minimum for checking 16 barrels...
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2008, 12:21:24 PM »

My fixed version with 41 ticks: fycikeg
And my new version with 40 ticks and an entirely different approach: daxohef
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