jf's Puzzles

[Rene]

Here is my daylight "clean the bank out" approach: porumul

EDIT: I like your catikod approach, jnz. I like the efficiency of the robbery team, and the fact that the dozer actually runs out with the money.

[jf]

SM, jnz, and Rene, you've come up with three unique, creative solutions to pulling up a stack of crates. It's a lot of fun to see different solutions to the same puzzle, especially a puzzle I put together myself.

I've usually got a general plan for a solution already in mind when I think up a puzzle. I wanted to see if I could bring the crate in, and take it out again. But I didn't set out to prevent any other kind of solution (although, I wanted to limit the solution to one of the original crates in the stack), and it's so interesting to see the innovation in these other solutions.

[jf]

NEW PUZZLE: Dress warm, grab a flashlight, and prepare yourself for a long day. Climb down into the Cistern: dyxycoh. Some pieces have fallen into the standing water at the bottom, and may not be usable. Good luck.

[Rene]

You didn't say how long we had to travel in the Cistern, and how much climbing gear would be required.... And it didn't help that the motorized vehicles broke down either.... Exhausted and frozen, but we managed to get out:

    Solution to Cistern (dyxycoh): bogepix

[jf]

Bravo Rene! Well done.

My idea was, could I make a puzzle where you had to choose a direction, and then stick with it. I took away copies and packer/unpackers only because I wanted the original crate to come back, and also, the one crate from either the left or right -- although not having those objects to work with makes crawling around in the cistern a little more work, doesn't it?

I was looking at the winches, and yes, now I would not be able to get all the crates into the middle (the "daylight" design), but I thought, well, it's possible to... <snip> (cf. bogepix -- but, SPOILER!). And I thought, well, that would be nice to see, but I'm going to stick to my plan.

So, I am very happy to see your solution. I especially enjoy the pristine condition of the central reservoir, and the dextrous juggling of the crates.

And here, then, finally, is the alternate path -- but I must warn you, this one gets a little muddy: betexik.

[Bucky]

Vault: dakihom.
I accomplished the theft under the pretense of removing some silver I had cached inside in advance.

[jf]

Bucky, nice solution! It made me think of Ocean's Eleven (why, I do not know), and that I have not seen Twelve yet. And I guess there is no difficulty in lifting up a block of solution crates anymore, given the abundance of techniques cropping up lately. 

[Bucky]

It made me think of Ocean's Eleven (why, I do not know), and that I have not seen Twelve yet.

Which two dozers aren't you counting?  I use 13.  (one go-to dozer, 9 on the cyclic removal team, one to remove the bottom crate at the start and two in the timed-release mechanism)

[adept]

my vault solution- probably nothing new- I haven't looked at the other solutions yet.

dabuhyf

[sluutthefeared]

Here's my solution to Cistern: dimisyn

EDIT: Interesting mechanism to determine odd or even jf.
The entire machine looks complex, fun to watch.

[Rene]

Very nice solution to Cistern, sluutthefeared, I especially like the even/odd selector. The thought to use a copy of the crate only occurred to me after I made my solution. You could say I was cleverly misled by JF's use of two winches.
And looking at both yours and JF's designs, I should have spend more time on how to get the crates up, instead of how to deal with them afterwards. You both have very good solutions for that.

[jnz]

Well I've finally managed to complete my solution to Cistern (dyxycoh): cyfycen.  I really struggled with lifting the crates.  Ended up going a bit brute force with it, especially on the left side.  Now to study the other solutions.

[jf]

Very nice solutions to Cistern from sluutthefeared and jnz. The thought to use a copy of the crate occurred to *me* only after viewing sluutthefeared's solution . I put the pairs of winches in just because I already had an idea of how I would solve the puzzle, but I can see how you could cleverly mislead puzzle solvers by leaving "hints" in place. Interestingly, I left the stacks predisposed to pick up in ascending value on the left, and descending value on the right, and in that case it *was* a "hint", at solving each side differently, but only one other solution (sluutthefeared's) uses that order, which shows that hints can be completely ignored with no ill effect. These are all very clever solutions -- quite enjoyable to find, and compare to my original idea.

[jf]

NEW PUZZLE: Get a pair of leather gloves, some comfortable sunglasses, and pack yourself a light lunch. You're off to a fun day at Driving School: nisaxur. Enjoy!

[Rene]

Driving school indeed    Here are my exams:

     rybunud